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Collins' New Egypt Book Gives New Meaning to Adage 'As above, so below' as He Reveals Caves Beneath Giza Plain

The cover of the new Andrew Collins book. It finally has been released after problems with the first printing.

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Although the title and advance news of this latest book by Andrew Collins promotes the discovery of a vast cave network beneath the Giza plain, in fact that part of the book is just one section of the volume. Granted, it is rather breathtaking that the existence of such a cave network could go unknown for long, but the real value of the book, in my opinion is that it recaps and clarifies so much that has already been discussed in many volumes by many authors. It is like a crash course in Egyptology.

Collins book, 'Beneath the Pyramids', discusses among other things the relative merits of the Orion theory and the Cygnus theory. Each posits that the alignment of the three major pyramids corresponds to the relative placements of the major stars in the named constellation. However, Collins shows that the Orion theory falls flat when the third pyramid does not correspond to the actual placement of the star Mintaka; Mintaka falls outside the base of the Menkaure pyramid.

The pyramids do, however, correspond much more closely to the placements of the major stars in Cygnus (the swan). Delta, Sadr, and Gienah, the wing stars of the celestial bird, correspond not only when you overlay the constellation over the aerial map of Giza, but also those stars would have been seen to set over the peaks of the pyramids at about 5500 BC. Furthermore, Cygnus' brightest star Deneb (in the tail) is placed near the Tomb of the Birds, Albireo is placed at the peak of Geber Ghibil, and the eye of the bird is placed at the well Bir el-Samman. The significance of all those sites is well explained by Collins in one of his most readable and lucid books.

Collins is not the first Westerner to discover the bird tomb nor the caves under the plain. He readily gives credit to earlier explorers who left enigmatic markings and clues on old maps. But these contributions to the body of modern knowledge of Giza are significant and could change the interpretation of what is known so far about the history and practices of the ancient Egyptians.

Color photos of the exploration of the caves by Collins and his wife Sue illustrate his account. They are a great help, along with his sketches of the layout of the rooms and tunnels, although they capture none of the hazards he encountered such as bat guano (a lovely source of eye and lung infections), the white widow spider, and an unknown live creature heard skittering in small, dark passageway. Not to mention local guards who threaten to arrest him if he proceeded any further on the Giza plateau.

There is plenty of material worth a second or third reading, and I am sure that fans of Indiana Jones will enjoy the account of his expeditions to Egypt. Those with an interest in ancient astronomy will also appreciate his explanations of Nuit as the celestial mother who gives birth to the sun each morning, of the symbology behind cow goddesses and birds (like Cygnus), the Sphinx as Leo, and more. Perhaps el-Hanash, the great snake, could also be imagined as the coiled stars of the Milky Way.

I recommend getting together with like-minded friends to discuss this book over several weeks, perhaps comparing it to similar books or related theories of Egyptian history and symbology. As stated, you can read whole chapters two or more times to digest the concentrated research behind all of this material. Rated four stars.

"Beneath the Pyramids: Egypt's Greatest Secret Uncovered" by Andrew Collins, 4th Dimension Press, 2009, 262 pages including index.

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{"commentId":10213202,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

It was such a long wait for this book! But from what I've read elsewhere, this book had one of the biggest advance orders of any title carried by some vendors in years. The attention is well deserved, in my opinion.

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Reply#1 - Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:30 PM EDT
{"commentId":10984578,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

I was surprised to learn that the author, Andrew Collins, has uploaded a video clip of himself talking about his finds in Egypt. You can go to the clip on YouTube here at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A9AZyydB2s

You're welcome.

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  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:39 PM EST
{"commentId":10984611,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

; )

Thank you!

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  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:42 PM EST
{"commentId":11003213,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

Oh, great.

After dismissing Collins' findings all this time, the Great Publicity Hound of Giza has now decided he needs to horn in on the action.

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  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 8:50 PM EST
{"commentId":11104708,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

Oh, geez. Isn't he the champ, just the champ, at the publicity game???

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  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Tue Dec 8, 2009 9:46 PM EST
{"commentId":11105027,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

If he had any self-awareness, he'd realize he's embarrassing himself.

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  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:08 PM EST
{"commentId":11105225,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

He's the type of person who just begs for a reality show of his own.

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  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Tue Dec 8, 2009 10:23 PM EST
{"commentId":11106283,"authorDomain":"dungbeetlemania"}

Hasn't he put on a couple of live openings already?

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  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Wed Dec 9, 2009 12:04 AM EST
{"commentId":11108110,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

Every one carefully stage managed.

I love how, when he's opening a tomb for the "first time", a camera crew is already set up to film him from the inside....

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  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Wed Dec 9, 2009 7:08 AM EST
{"commentId":11128028,"authorDomain":"eriqalan"}

One could say the same of Jacques Cousteau - but he popularized underwater exploration in a way that no one else did.

Just because this person has a theatrical way about how he does his science doesn't make it any less science, some here sound more jealous than anything else.

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  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:39 AM EST
{"commentId":11132262,"authorDomain":"blessed-isles"}

Theatrical, Eriq? It goes a bit beyond that when the man conceals evidence and goes out of his way to destroy reputations.

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  • 3 votes
#1.10 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:04 AM EST
{"commentId":11145851,"authorDomain":"PrimarySources"}

Exactly. Hawass' glory-hound antics are repellant, but they are by no means the most insidious thing about him.

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  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:38 PM EST
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{"commentId":10213356,"authorDomain":"alkimija"}
Color photos of the exploration of the caves by Collins and his wife Sue illustrate his account.

OMG. Yes, I'll be definitely be giving this book a read.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":10213871,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

Hi, alkimija -- glad you found my review so quickly! I am sure you will enjoy it.

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  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:19 PM EDT
{"commentId":10213883,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

Tell me what topic you want to discuss more, so I can share a bit more of what is in the book.

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  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:20 PM EDT
{"commentId":10215196,"authorDomain":"alkimija"}

The caves. Inscriptions, paintings, artefacts, whatever they stumbled across down there. I've heard of the caves before but this is the first time that I've come across someone claiming to have actual proof of their existence. It's fascinating. Thank you for bringing this to our attention: I know I for one love stuff like this.

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  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:41 AM EDT
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I recommend getting together with like-minded friends to discuss this book over several weeks, perhaps comparing it to similar books or related theories of Egyptian history and symbology. As stated, you can read whole chapters two or more times to digest the concentrated research behind all of this material.

Great idea. Hell, we should do that here.

Clearly, I need to get a copy of this book for myself.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:09 AM EDT
{"commentId":10215193,"authorDomain":"barkinhound"}

Thank you kindly for the heads up on this tome.

Happy Trails

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  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:40 AM EDT
{"commentId":10215971,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

It was a major find just to locate an entrance to the caves --or some of the caves. No inscriptions etc. that we know of at this point. But these are tunnels and caves that appear to be natural but at some points have been enlarged into rooms. Oh there were some mummified birds in the Tomb of the Birds area. But according to some of the locals, these underground trails can meander for miles.So it is going to take several visits to properly and systematically track all these trails and map them accurately. Bear in mind the heat under the surface and the hazard from bat dung so you have to wear masks to stay there for some length of time. Collins and his wife just barely scratched the surface.

I was rather amused that much of this stuff is all well-known to the locals, of course. Makes you wonder what else is yet to be written up in catalogs and books?

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  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:17 AM EDT
{"commentId":10223004,"authorDomain":"kperodin"}
I was rather amused that much of this stuff is all well-known to the locals, of course. Makes you wonder what else is yet to be written up in catalogs and books?

Centuries after the passage of that great era, secret groups continued to do some sophisticated maintenance and repairs on those structures.

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  • 5 votes
#5.1 - Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:40 AM EDT
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{"commentId":10221156,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

I've never heard of this, and am wondering why there has been little archeological investigation of the cave system. BTW, bat guano not only harbors pathogens, but is biochemically toxic, the fumes, when concentrated, will burn through the lining of your breathing passages.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:47 AM EDT
{"commentId":10655669,"authorDomain":"words4words"}

Egyptians had acknowledged high technology and much knnowledge of stars- it is great that progress is being made in this field of study. Also archaeology of language concerning Hellenistic Egypt is important: I found recent detailed study of word STELE in Hellenistic times and especially in Egypt- they denoted with this word STELE also carved blocks of crystal (not only blocks of sandstone with engraved hieroglyphs that usually is so thought). This new study of STELE with title STELEVISION writes of production of visions with STELE named crystals, especially crystal bowls- they wrote of STELOGRAPHIA, and this recent study is with title STELEVISION (see also the link in my column) This study gives much consideration to every archaeologist of Egypt!!!! Much is now happening!!!!

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  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:43 AM EST
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